"Well... God. Knowing how to overcome adversity, you know what I'm saying, when pressures comes at me, knowing how to deal with the pressure. Once I learned that, everything else fell into place."
"When did that happen for you?"
"About a year ago. I was incarcerated and I went through a lot of soul searching and I've changed. And in order to do that, I had to learn how to deal with situations, circumstances, things that I don't like."
"So what was the person like who introduced you to this kind of lifestyle?"
"Wow. Just a real individual. His name is Roger. There were a couple of them: Paul D., Charlie P., these guys was amazing in my life, all for years when they talked to me and finally I got it."
"If you'd never met them, what would be different?"
"Who knows? I don't know what woulda happened, man. I mighta still turned out better or good, but who knows where it mighta went. But it's defined me."